This episode dismantles the idea of AI as a job replacement and reframes it as the “Human + AI Co-Creation” model, where marketers act as skilled pilots with AI as their advanced co-pilot.
The hosts break down the two critical skills needed to make this partnership effective. First, they dive deep into the craft of “prompt engineering,” revealing how to give clear, effective directions to your AI partner using techniques like the PTCF framework, few-shot examples, and chain-of-thought reasoning. The conversation then shifts to the indispensable role of human oversight after the AI has delivered its output. This includes the critical tasks of fact-checking, refining for authentic brand voice, ensuring strategic impact, and acting as the final ethical guardian. Listeners will learn that the true power of AI in marketing is combining machine efficiency with human insight, strategy, and judgment to achieve results that neither could accomplish alone.
Transcript
Okay, let’s unpack this. Welcome to the deep dive. Today, we’re exploring a concept that’s well, it’s becoming absolutely fundamental if you’re working anywhere near AI in marketing. It’s human plus AI co-creation. Sounds a bit technical, maybe maybe even a bit corporate buzzwordy, but um at its heart, it’s really about how we as marketers can genuinely partner with artificial intelligence.
Exactly. It really moves beyond just thinking of AI as a tool to, you know, automate simple tasks or maybe worse the fear that it replaces human roles entirely right this model it’s really about AI augmenting what we do amplifying our capabilities and our mission here uh pulling from a stack of sources that really get into applied AI for marketing is to understand how you actually make that partnership work effectively yeah how do you do it how do you blend AI’s incredible efficiency its power with those uniquely human skills you know things like genuine authenticity that high level strategic thinking and critically ethical judgment.
Ah, and these sources, they really map out a path for getting good at applied AI, aiming for like peak marketing performance.
They’re designed for people like you listening in who need to cut through all the noise and hype.
Yeah, there’s a lot of noise.
Get informed quickly, find those sort of actionable aha moments and, you know, not feel completely overwhelmed by all the new tech popping up constantly.
Definitely want to avoid the overwhelm. So, let’s jump into what these materials reveal about actually building this partnership. Let’s do it.
So, right at the top, these sources really hammer home the fundamental principle of this co-creation model. What’s the the core idea we need to grasp first?
The absolute bedrock principle, the thing you have to start with is that AI serves as an augmentation tool.
Okay, think of it less like uh an autonomous vehicle driving itself and maybe more like a really advanced navigation system or maybe a superefficient co-pilot, the human marketer, still firmly in the driver’s seat. making the strategic calls and they explicitly label this the human plus AI co-creation model. So it’s human intelligence working like handinhand with AI capabilities. The goal isn’t just using AI to do things faster, right? It’s using it together with human skills to get better results than either could achieve on their own. It’s about um achieving demonstrable AIdriven performance boosts that well maybe weren’t possible before.
Is that energy like you said AI brings the speed the data crunching the you know rapid generation of options loads of options but the human provides the insight the creativity the contextual understanding and that crucial oversight yeah it’s like um the AI can maybe draft a thousand headlines in seconds flat wow but the human marketer knows which three will actually resonate with their specific audience their brand voice that’s the key difference
okay so if AI is this powerful co-pilot the human needs to get really good at well telling it what to do giving directions and That brings us to a skill that’s just emphasized again and again across these sources as absolutely vital, a core transferable skill for interacting with AI, especially these large language models.
Prompt engineering.
Totally. Prompt engineering is essentially your main way of talking to this AI partner is how you communicate what you want, your intent and guide the AI to produce something actually useful, right?
And the sources, they lay out some really specific uh proven best practices for crafting prompts that work well.
They start with the basics, but it’s surprising how often maybe we miss this. You need clear, concise, specific instructions.
Yes, clarity is king.
It’s not enough to just say, “Write me a social media post.” You need those action verbs. Define what you want the AI to do. And importantly, set constraints.
Exactly. Constraints are so important. Specify the length, the style, the format you need.
Give me an example.
Okay. So, instead of just write a tweet, you might say something like, “Draft three distinct Twitter posts. Uh, keep each under 280 characters. They should promote our new product launch. Use a tone that’s slightly humorous but also exciting. And make sure each one ends with a call to action to click the link in bio. See how much more specific that is.
Much more specific. Yeah, you’re really narrowing the possibilities for the AI guiding it and providing context is huge, too, right?
Paramount. You absolutely cannot assume the AI knows anything about your specific business or your target audience or the you know, little nuances of your campaign, right? It doesn’t live in your office.
Exactly. You have to feed it the necessary background info. Explain who the audience is, what the core message needs to be, what the ultimate goal of this piece of content actually is.
It really is like briefing a new team member, isn’t it? And these sources even introduce uh structured frameworks for building prompts. They highlight one called PTCF.
Yeah, PTCF. It stands for persona, task, context, and format. It’s a simple structure, but really powerful for organizing your thoughts when you’re writing a prompt. You tell the AI what persona to adopt like act as a witty marketing copywriter.
Okay.
Then the task, draft five email subject lines. Then the context, which is crucial. These emails are for a promo campaign targeting existing customers about a flash sale. And here are the key selling points. You’d list them.
And finally, the format. Provide the subject lines as a numbered list. Using a structure like PTCF, it dramatically improves the consistency and frankly the quality quality of what the AI gives you back.
I can see how breaking it down like that would just force you to be clearer in your own thinking first.
It does.
They also talk about using delimiters and uh XML tags. Now, this might sound a bit technical to some listeners, but why is this useful?
Think of delimiters like using say triple quotes or maybe triple hashes or even simple XML style tags like context go context goes here, context. Think of them as signpost for the AI.
Okay. Signpost.
Yeah. If you’re giving it a big chunk of text as background information, you can wrap it in these delimiters and tell the AI, okay, everything between these markers, that’s the context. It helps the AI tell the difference between your instructions and the background material you’re providing.
Ah, so it prevents confusion. Helps it parse the prompt properly.
Exactly. Keeps things clean.
And examples seem like another big way to guide the AI. They call that few shot prompting.
Yes. And this is incredibly effective. Instead of just trying to describe the style or tone you want, you actually show the AI a few examples like a show Don’t tell for AI.
Pretty much if you want blog post intros written in a specific engaging style, give it maybe two or three intros you really like and say, “Draft an introduction for this new topic matching the style of these examples.” It gives the AI concrete data points to latch on to. Helps it understand tone, structure, complexity way better than just words can. Sometimes it’s like giving the AI a mini style guide, but with real examples instead of just abstract rules.
Precisely.
And they mention using positive framing. What’s that? about.
It’s a subtle point, but it matters. Try to tell the AI what to do rather than just what not to do.
Okay?
So, instead of saying, “Don’t make it sound too corporate,” you might rephrase it as, “Maintain a friendly and approachable tone.” Framing it positively guides the AI more directly towards the outcome you actually want.
Makes sense. Guide it towards the goal, not just away from the pitfalls. Now, this next one feels really crucial, especially if you’re working with like your own company data or need high accuracy. The source has really emphasized providing trusted reference text. This ties into um retrieval augmented generation or rag.
Rag is Yeah. It’s a bit of a game changer honestly. Look, AI models know a ton of general stuff from the internet. Right.
Right.
But they don’t know the specifics of your business, your latest product features or the data from your internal reports.
By giving the AI specific reliable text, maybe it’s a product brief, a customer case study, some recent sales data, you effectively ground its response. in that trusted information.
Okay. You ground it.
Yeah. It dramatically improves accuracy and it’s really the best defense against those AI hallucinations.
Ah, where it just confidently makes stuff up.
Exactly. Which can be dangerous. Providing that reference text keeps it factual.
So, you’re basically giving the AI the correct notes to study before asking it to write the essay. That seems essential for anything needing factual accuracy.
Absolutely essential. And they also touch on using system prompts or uh initial role prompting.
What’s the difference there? Sounds similar. similar.
They are related. A system prompt, a role prompting is usually the very first instruction you give the AI in a session. It kind of sets the stage for the whole interaction. It defines the AI’s persona for that chat. Like, you are an expert social media strategist focused on B2B tech
or it establishes ground rules. Always prioritize conciseness or never use industry jargon. It’s like setting the AI’s default mode before you even give it a specific task prompt.
Got it. Setting the overall tone and rules. right from the start. And what about for those more complex tasks like maybe planning out a whole email sequence or drafting a really detailed outline?
For those, they recommend strategies like chain of thought or cot. You could often trigger this just by adding simple phrases to your prompt like think step by step or break down your reasoning.
Interesting.
It encourages the AI to process the request more sequentially. Kind of showing its intermediate thinking steps. And often this leads to more structured, more logical, and frankly more accurate outputs for complex problems. Yeah, it’s like asking the AI to show its work, you know, like in a math problem.
Yeah, I get that. So, giving clear instructions involves a lot more nuance than you might first think. Structure, context, examples, setting rules, even asking it to show its thinking.
It really is a craft. It takes practice, and the sources are crystal clear on this. Prompt design isn’t a oneanddone thing. It’s an iterative process. You write a prompt, you test it, you look carefully at the output, And then you refine your prompt based on what you got back. It’s this continuous loop of write, test, evaluate, refine.
That makes total sense. You’re kind of training the AI in a way to understand your specific needs better over time. Which leads us perfectly into the other absolutely critical side of this co-creation coin. What happens after the AI gives you something? That’s where the essential human role really takes center stage.
Precisely. The AI has done maybe then, and this is huge, fact. is essential. AI can generate text that sounds perfectly plausible, completely confident, but it’s just factually wrong.
The plausible sounding errors.
Exactly. Relying on AI for factual information without rigorous verification, that is a recipe for disaster for your brand’s credibility.
So, the human is the ultimate fact checker. What else is involved in this refinement?
You need to edit and refine for overall quality and relevance. You know, does the output flow well? Is it engaging? Does it make sense? within the bigger picture of your project. But beyond that, the sources really drill down on refining for brand alignment. This is where the human marketer’s deep intuitive understanding of their brand is irreplaceable because the AI doesn’t inherently understand your specific brand voice or the nuance or the personality you’ve built.
Yeah, exactly that. AI can mimic styles it’s been trained on, but it doesn’t feel your brand’s personality. Does the AI’s draft actually sound like you? Does it use your specific terminology, your unique tone of voice. Does it capture the kind of emotional connection you’re trying to make with your audience? Refining for brand alignment ensures that even AI assisted content feels genuinely authentically yours.
That feels crucial for maintaining a consistent brand identity people trust.
And it’s not just about sounding right. It’s also about achieving results, isn’t it? Refining for a strategic impact.
Absolutely. This ties the AI output directly back to your actual marketing goal. So you have to ask, does this piece of content, this analysis, this campaign idea the AI generated. Does it actually help us achieve our broader marketing objectives? The human marketer understands that bigger picture, the overall strategy. They need to evaluate if the AI’s contribution is actually going to move the needle in the right direction.
The sources kind of conceptually link this to using frameworks like smart goals or maybe strive valuations. Basically, does the AI output contribute to something measurable and strategically important for the business?
So, it’s about ensuring the AI isn’t just generating like busy work, but output that really serves the campaign’s core purpose. And finally, they stress refining for ethical integrity.
Yes, this is incredibly important and it’s something the sources connect directly to that idea we mentioned earlier, the ethical practice of balancing efficiency with authenticity.
Okay, tell me more about that connection. How does this human refinement step tie directly into ethical practice?
Well, the sources are very clear. Mastering applied AI isn’t just about technical skill. It involves understanding how to balance the significant efficiency gains AI offers with maintaining a genuine brand voice and where it’s appropriate being transparent with your audience if AI played a significant role in generating content. Human oversight is absolutely fundamental to ensuring you strike that right balance.
So the human isn’t just a proofreader. They’re acting as the guardian of the brand’s authenticity and also the responsible use of this powerful technology.
Precisely. Reviewing and refining AI output is how you ensure ethical alignment. It’s how you maintain that authenticity, preventing your brand communication from sounding robotic or generic or maybe even misleading. And it’s also how you actively work to mitigate potential biases.
Ah, biases.
Yeah. Biases that might be lurking in the AI’s training data and could inadvertently creep into its output. The human marketer’s judgment, their ethical compass is essential here.
So, they make it really explicit then that this human refinement step isn’t just a nice to have, it’s core to using AI responsibly.
Absolutely not optional within the learning. framework described in these sources. This whole human plus AI co-creation model, specifically with its strong emphasis on critical human oversight and refinement, is positioned explicitly as a key ethical practice. It’s fundamental to how you leverage AI’s power responsibly and effectively.
Okay, so we’ve talked about the core principles, the importance of skilled prompting, and then this absolutely crucial human refinement stage.
Where does this co-creation model actually get applied? in the day-to-day of marketing.
Based on the sources, you’ll see this model being applicable across well, pretty much all marketing functions. It’s definitely relevant in content creation. Things like generating drafts, brainstorming ideas, summarizing research papers or reports.
It applies to social media management, drafting posts, analyzing trends, maybe suggesting replies. In email and CRM, you could use AI for personalization suggestions, or generating draft email copy. They even touch on potential uses in areas like say affiliate or influencer marketing. Maybe AI helps identify potential partners or analyze campaign performance data, but the human strategy, the relationship building that remains central.
It really sounds like it touches almost every aspect of the modern marketing workflow in some way. And is there a sort of supporting ecosystem mentioned in the sources for actually practicing this model? Like how do you get better at it?
Yes, the sources do highlight that this model is supported within their specific learning environment. They mention resources like interestingly an AI learning assistant, which they actually call Link.
Link. Okay.
Yeah.
Think of Link as another AI, but one specifically designed to help you learn how to partner effectively with other AIs. It can guide you on applying these frameworks we’ve discussed, help brainstorm prompt ideas, or maybe explain different AI capabilities relevant to your task.
Huh. An AI helping you master AI. That’s pretty meta, but makes sense.
It kind of closes the loop, right? And the community forums are also highlighted as really valuable spaces, places where Marketers can actually discuss the real world challenges they face using AI tools, share their experiments with different prompts, what worked, what didn’t, and crucially talk about their refinement strategies, what they’ve learned works best for getting that peak performance while still maintaining authenticity. It’s a space for that vital peer-to-peer learning in this new co-creative landscape.
Okay. Wow. We have covered a lot of ground on this human plus AI co-creation model from understanding that core principle of augmentation to the nitty-gritty of prompting and the absolute necessity of that human refinement layer.
Yeah. And I think the core takeaway is well, it’s both powerful and pretty clear. AI is an extraordinary assistant for efficiency, for speed, for scale. It can generate massive amounts of output incredibly quickly. But the human marketer isn’t just supervising from a distance. You are indispensable. Your strategic direction, your deep, nuanced understanding of your brand’s voice and your audience, your ability to ensure genuine authenticity, and your unwavering commitment to upholding ethical standards through that critical evaluation and refinement. These are the vital layers that frankly AI currently cannot replicate.
So this isn’t about using AI to do your job for you. It’s really about using AI to do your job better. It’s about adding those essential human elements, strategy, brand nuance, ethical consideration that elevate marketing from just, you know, generating stuff to creating truly impactful and responsible connections with your audience.
Exactly. It should ideally free up your human mind, your time to focus more on the higher level creative thinking, the empathy, the relationship building, the strategic oversight, all the things that truly drive business results and build that lasting brand trust.
Which leaves us with this final maybe provocative thought for you to consider. How can you intentionally start building this human plus AI co-creation model with its dual focus on skilled prompting and rigorous human refinement into your own daily marketing tasks? Not just to maybe shave off a few minutes here and there, but to genuinely elevate the strategic impact and the ethical integrity of every single piece of work you create.
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